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is this discussion only for vanilla ships

    if not, id like to know how to improve this ship, it uses galactic civil war mod
    image https://i.imgur.com/sFuAAPX.png

    darkdragon396 This usually would only be for vanilla ships, but the 'headmaster' Alpha isn't here and I've got GCW loaded, so I'll have a look and tell you my opinion.

      Could you do a v inside of a V??? Like the inner v is electrobolts, small lasers, railguns. The outside v would be heavy cannon, standard cannon, and heavy laser blaster. The connectors and the ends of the vs would have tractor beams. Does anyone else have this idea??? Also since i just came up with this idea im gonna make the ship's shape on here using the keyboard.

        BattleCruiserCommander Yes, that is called a "W" ship.
        Becuase most people go as far as W, but, from what I recall, you can get about 5 of these "pyramids" on a ship the size of the standard grid. Mine costs about 1 mil.

          Fort_Master_Gustav oh. I'm not familar with meta ships besides just the basic Walls, Kiters, Spinners, Splitters ect.

            CursedPh4nt0m
            image https://i.imgur.com/UlpJxRM.png

              GNUSMAS What about the other one?

              CursedPh4nt0m I've already got a second one too:
              The 'Dragonfly 2.5' - a modified version of the original design by Lukz2cool.

                CursedPh4nt0m he won and I didn't hurt him.

                  GNUSMAS That's odd, the old version already damaged it, how come the new one didn't?
                  You wouldn't mind sending me your new version btw?
                  The range of the flak is limited due to the placement btw, so ramming the front should allow your missiles to slip by and hit the back. You're gonna take some damage from the flak tho, so you should do it before your frontal armor gets destroyed.

                  So I started making a new ship, for longer range engagements, and it's not nearly finished yet, it needs more missiles, thrusters and I haven't even started on the internals yet, however I'd like some constructive criticism before I go much further with the design
                  image https://i.imgur.com/r9tTmBh.png
                  Also ignore the mess of a control room next to the thrusters, I just slapped that on for a weapons test and forgot to remove it

                  darkdragon396 for GCW 4 phantom reactors produce more energy than one normal reactor and you have massive central reactor spam. the frontal nukes and railguns do not nearly have enough protection

                  GNUSMAS How do I say that? Get rid of that nuke. They are incredibly slow, their factories explode violently and a dual railgun would deal way more damage. Other than that, you should replace the cannons with side-facing flak/pd, add at least one more CR and seperate the thruster modules, to increase crew efficiency and get rid of like half of the quarters.

                  chief_chaman478 Gimme a moment, I'm still looking for something with similar cost. Flak only is an interesting choice tho, might be the small fireing angle is a big disadvantage on this design.

                  Fort_Master_Gustav You could possibly borrow me a ~500.000 ship? Seems like I don't have anything even close to that cost...

                  GNUSMAS i am not a teacher but ,though it seems alright, there are a few problems: the shields on the missles will not hold due to the crew prioritising loading the launchers
                  the flak on the back may be a bit overkill, a few pds could do
                  the nuke as CursedPh4nt0m said is uterly useless and should be replaced by a ailgun
                  here is a missile module that has a shield module within itself

                  image https://i.imgur.com/5XjFKjM.png

                  CursedPh4nt0m if you dont have anything feel free to use something more exspensive just interested