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Warning64 I know a thing or two about dreadnaught building as well, I'm not as talented as @The_Bloodnaught but I should be able to tell you a couple useful tricks.

1. Use modules! I see you having a walkway already across the ship, that is very inefficiënt. In a module crew will do what needs doing, and won't walk across the entire ship.

2. Design modules before you start adding them to your ship. I see you are building a lot step by step, but it is much easier to design modules and paste them where they need to be. You can make many different modules for different purposes and places.

3. Broadside railguns are not that good, if you use them brotect them at least well enough with multiple shield layers.

4. Keep the paint simple, as it is difficult to make it look good and detailed at the same time on such a scale.

5. If you care less about the paint, don't fill the ship with armor or corridors and just keep the space inside the ship empty for most part.

That should do it for the basics of dreadnaught-building.

The_Bloodnaught

Northerner
You two are totally right, once you get the hang of it it is not that hard, but getting those first ships in is the real challenge. And even when you are better at designing still not all designs make it past testing.

Alpha agreed, even if you are good at building there is no guarantee a ship will get in. Oneye DMs me ships and there are ships he has sent me that don't pass. And those are ships coming from Oneye.

On top of that I tried to account for most of the cheese strats that being used so rail gun kites are not a insta get in like they used to be.

Northerner Yes, you should certainly keep the testing harder for kiting ships or other "cheese strats". That's why I didn't care too much if testing Predator would take longer, since it uses that OP missile-railgun combo.

Warning64 No because, unless something has changed, most people PCs are not powerful enough to load the ships in the tier 12 worlds let alone the tier 13 ones.

Hello, I am somewhat new to Cosmoteer and stumbled upon this thread. I'm fairly new to the ship building scene, and would love tips and advice on how to improve upon my ships, especially this first one. I thought it'd be fun to try and design a ship worthy of being added to the GiF mod, so I present my first ship submission to you:

Name: Bird of Prey
Tier: 10
Cost: $3,958,500
Ship: (Attachment wasn't working)

The idea with this one was to try something I haven't really seen an awful lot of, layering a design. The basic premise is when an arm is damaged enough to snap off, the one behind it essentially takes it's place and the firepower doesn't diminish by much. Additionally, the snapped off arm acts as a form of cover and extra firepower with any cannons that remain on the arm. The one thing I did forget to add were fire extinguishers, which will be added in when I have time to alter the design to be more efficient and effective. For now though, I'd like to see how this one goes.

Lukz2cool

That's really cool looking, but it's going to be extremely vulnerable to rail-guns. You could also potentially see players targeting the connection points one after another to sever the arms prematurely. I know I would focus fire on the forward center reactors to try and blow them off quickly. To fix this, you could try placing command centers in the arms. This would allow the arms to continue to function optimally even after dismemberment.

Honestly with this new update to the Galaxy in Flames ships not only will you think you can't build good ships you will also think you can't paint either. It's like double the flexing.

Northerner Looks at most tier 13 ships, or atleast 4 of em that are mine... c:

The_Bloodnaught Don't worry. I have a ship in the making which costs a little bit less then 20 million. Only thing that needs to get done is the paint. Your ships will not be left alone.

The_Bloodnaught Nearly all of them are yours lol

The_Bloodnaught I'll give you some company.

This is a stripped down version of my Mjolnir Class, which is waaaaay over the limit. This one though, this is right in that glorious final tier. I'll give it a snazzy paint job if it passes, cause otherwise its big brother is a lot more interesting. (It's got like twice as many weapons and more thrust.)

The Thunderlord Class Supercruiser

Northerner Thank you for all the advice Northerner. I'll be sure to consult Oneye's ship building guide more thoroughly in order to further improve upon the current design. The splitting functionality will be removed, and the ship will be altered to fit the GiF mod criteria.

Northerner will also think you can't paint either

Chuckles I'm in danger

Northerner I've had some spare time on my hands tonight, so I've taken in your advice for improvement upon the current design. Everything has pretty much been overhauled passed the guns, "interior" has a new design rather than the layered one previously. The rear boasts a shielded 'V' EMP missile system, and the thrusters have been re-fitted. If there are any more improvements past the guide and current advice that you can observe, I'd love to hear it. Anyways, the Bird of Prey Mk II:

Name: Bird of Prey Mk II
Tier: 10
Cost: $4,965,900
Ship: