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kwhwwymwn I know, what i meant was that i want to do my own campaign.

I like to balance the mods I use with the vanilla version, and I must say, this mod does it the best among the big mods out there. Warhammer mod also has cool stuff and visuals in there, but the power of everything there is over 9000.
Still, I now find myself nerfing half of the stuff from the Forge. Fighter weaponry and engines are simply OP. Like, price is usually not an issue, as most just play sandbox, and should not be the only limiting factor - size, weight and ammo consumption are other variables that should also play a role. Ideally, a weapon or part of a smaller scale should only be good enough for a small ship - try spam it or use on a bigger vessel, and a bigger weapon usually has to be better. Also, higher tier weaponry of the same size (i.e. plasma and such) actually makes the lower tier obsolete and unnecessary. What's the point of having those other than just more stuff? I bet there's quite a number of weapons that no one ever uses simply because there's a better alternative in this same mod.
Anyhow - this is not to criticize, but rather to suggest some balancing. I can try and help with that if interested.

Raufbold I think that price is the major balancing point.

Sure, playing in sandbox gives you unlimited funds, but if you are designing ships for other modes (MP or BH), then you will need to impart some level of budget. This is the main challenge of building IMO, even in sandbox, as trying to design a ship with the highest effectiveness and lowest price is a good goal.

If you impart no budget limit, even vanilla can become "OP" as nothing prevents you from simply spamming as many parts as you please.

Worth noting that there are differences between the different fighter weapons. The better ones have more damage, but often different projectile speeds, shield vs. armor damage, cost, and power use per shot (basically ammo).

Astrum well, I'm just saying that price shouldn't really be the ONLY factor. Look at reactors for example:
Standard reactor: produces 0.375 power/ton/cubic metre
Medium reactor: 0.5 power
Large reactor: 0.84 power
reactor 1x1 (Forge): 1.52 power/ton or 0,38/cu.m

Even without prices, you can see the logic with the vanilla ones: if your ship is large enough to house a bigger reactor, and you're ok with putting more eggs in one basket/provide more defense/allow for optimal distance, you'll be way better off with a larger one, so no need to spam standards. With the 1x1 here though, I would pretty much always prefer spamming it to almost any other alternative. Not only it is simply better in all aspects than the standard reactor - I would almost surely prefer it to the bigger ones as well since its 1/4 of weight per energy generation would allow me to save weight elsewhere and either have my ship be faster or place fewer engines. Same goes for many other parts.

Kroom Nevermind, it must have been a one time error. But I will let you know if it comes up again.

Raufbold Money is not the only factor i take into account when i do the balancing of parts. I agree that some parts are very powerful in the mod, i would like your feedback about balance changes.
The small fighter guns are there to make possible very cheap, expendable and spammable ships (ships that dont use shields, very little armor and small engines for example)

Raider you never seen a dinghy with a cannon firing projectiles as big as the crew?

is there a maximum amount of ships you can dock?

Raufbold What I am trying to do is to draw some sort of a line between small ship weapons and big ship weapons - in a way that a small ship weapon would be a really good choice for a fighter, but for a bigger ship spamming it would make little sense as opposed to just a bigger weapon.

I tried to achieve that by using mainly the firing arc and range of the fighter weapons as i think those two factors a very important for big ships. Also i want fighters to depend on speed and maneuverability as its main defense, sadly there is no AI that support evasive maneuvers right now.

neoshaf is there a maximum amount of ships you can dock?

You can properly dock one per landing pad.

Kroom is it compatible with 15.9

Raider I have no issues playing it on 15.9

Kroom I'm working on a few other ideas for fighter weaponry actually. For example, your fighter missiles are quite badass with the ability to place the launcher wherever. BUT - if you make the launcher non-rechargeable, all of a sudden this becomes a very limited weapon. Some other weapons can have limited ammo too. 1x1 reactor can produce a different kind of energy and provide it to all parts in a fairly wide area automatically (kind of like the cockpit does, but even more efficiently). However, this energy could only be used for to power fighter parts/weaponry.