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RedAndCosmoteer
Technically, the Mak can be integrated into the history of a faction IE: they come from a galaxy that was consumed by the Mak and are effectively refugees. not sure what you mean by "pretty much anything"

yobeefjerky What i'm asking is if it's okay for me to add the mak to lore.

i'm assuming yes.

    RedAndCosmoteer
    As long as they don't get solved or something then yes, it's not a huge deal
    (what I mean is the refuge faction never found out a way to deal with the Mak aside from thermal weapons, nor did they ever find out anything about the Mak themselves)

    yobeefjerky (So the only thing they're allowed to know about the mak
    is that they exist
    and are weak to thermals?
    seems ok)

      Gladiaxa I don't think so.

        Gladiaxa Their programming makes alliance totally impossible.
        for a simple recreation of their programming (don't assume it's canon)

        Action Priority
        Communicate = 2
        Replicate = 1
        Explore = 3
        Gather Material = 2
        Defend = 1

        Going from 1-5, this is pretty much their priorities, what is probably an error in their code changed Replicate from 2 to 1, making it a first priority overriding Communicate, which is higher in the list and thus consulted first.

        yobeefjerky I want to see the fucking Sylandro fart-cloud responsible for these fucking Mak drones.

        On a more serious note - if the Collective have to get involved, they would rather be involved at the end. Some of the Rogue Core-AI might be happy to sacrifice themselves to make the Mak a bigger threat though (Looking at you, Argus-Maelstrom, you poetic, blind bastard), but the main reason is that, knowing Prime, and knowing he isn't an unkillable divine entity (it's just extremely hard to kill him), he's going to have to wait until the Mak have sent literally every single one of their drones to this universe, THEN they manipulate the Mak in a super-weapon like move that allows the united factions to wreck Mak drones left and right. Fail to destroy them during this time and the Collective are guaranteed to be screwed, so that's why Prime will refuse to help at first.

        RandomCommander That's assuming the Mak enter the Collective's universe, which is highly unlikely if there isn't enough matter to justify the trip

        yobeefjerky RandomCommander
        Considering the Mak are not affected by psionics and are logically no psionics themselves they would be most likely incapable of even entering the sixth dimension, nor could they be brought there on someone elses account as they would literally cancel themselves out.

        yobeefjerky Sounds legit too

          yobeefjerky If the Mak would have taken a great portion of the universe, would they start to 'hibernate' if nothing is left to eat?

            Alpha
            No they'd just expand further, if they somehow ate the entire universe, they would roam the void for as long as it takes for their systems die of entropy.

            Drakador_Chaos yobeefjerky
            So I guess that means the Collective is NOT going to participate due to the "divine entities defeat the purpose" clause.

              RandomCommander Don´t think they can´t participate, what I pointed out was only that the "homeworld" of the Collective is not endangered of getting eaten by Mak.

                Drakador_Chaos Very good point. The Mak are pretty much able to hunt down the Collective ships in this galaxy if they so choose - which they will once the Collective initiate their power-move. Omni-dimensional race capable of Hyper-Dimensional Rift intereference? Mak Public enemy no. 1, break them down at all costs. That's essentially putting the Collective's participation in the forumverse back to square one.

                Alright. I suppose they're in.

                  8 days later

                  In the heat of the battle, a Tz'y'gorn ship was destroyed. Not by the Ambassador. Not by any of the once-union ships.

                  Nightwing #3 captain: We can't lose this ship!

                  They were talking about the crippled shokan ship which was vulnerable to attack if all didn't go well.
                  Reinforcements from the Icanni and Makosami initially came because of the unofficial and accidental declaration of war,but they saw a ship. Larger than the Ambassador.