Galaxy in Flames ship submission page (closed)

JPS-205

certain that the FTL occupies a certain space in my ship, more considering the size of my crew, one or two rooms would not make much difference

RedAndCosmoteer

JPS-205 No, what I meant is that the AI is not programmed to use FTL drives which means it's basically dead weight (and credits/$).

JPS-205

So if I send a non-FTL version of my ship, will you stop complaining?

RedAndCosmoteer

JPS-205 I'll stop right now, since I don't see any improvements.

CursedPh4nt0m

JPS-205 Guy, you don't need any FTL at all, only a single sensor, way less crew and a look into some building guides!
I'd suggest to read both of oneyes guides and also take a look into octos or northerners guide. They might be somewhat outdated, but they still contain most basic knowledge.

RedAndCosmoteer Come on, everyone was bad at the beginning. Just show some patience. (Or have me take over for you. Whatever...)

RedAndCosmoteer

CursedPh4nt0m I had patience

it just ran out way before i posted this

and yes pls take over

JPS-205 We do have a high standard here...

JPS-205

I'm trying, I spent hours redesigning my ship, so nothing is good enough for you

CursedPh4nt0m

JPS-205 First: Please hit the reply button under the post you're replying to.
Second: Using Google translate is no crime, i tend to use it myself quite often. You still should have some basic understanding of english.
Third: Believe it or not, most people here just want to help you. Getting a ship in the mod is pretty damn hard, even the "professionals" need to make many improvements to their designs before getting them through testing.

RedAndCosmoteer (Okay, fine. Have fun doing something else.)

Alpha

JPS-205 Well, he just says that a lot of the advice we gave you hasn't been followed. I can easily beat this + 5 million ship of yours with my much cheaper outdated cannon ship.

Alright, let me give you a simple challenge before you proceed. I want you to make a ship which beats this one:

Don't look too much at your ship's cost yet, just make sure it doesn't cost double the price of mine, okay? Apart from that there are no restrictions. Use the Huge ships mod if you want, yours just needs to beat it when using normal AI.

JPS-205

CursedPh4nt0m beauty, I'm going to get rid of FTL and raise the lightning gun

CursedPh4nt0m

Alpha Don't you think this one is somewhat large? I'd propose something like a 1 million wall to beat first....

JPS-205 I assume you mean electro-bolters? Better try word-to-word translation instead of translating entire sentences. Otherwise it might lead to misunderstandings.

JPS-205

Alpha I accept your challenge

Alpha

JPS-205 If you find it too large, you could also try this one:

RedAndCosmoteer

CursedPh4nt0m wall to beat first

no
nono
nonononono

Alpha

CursedPh4nt0m I'm just giving him some outdated pre 0.14.5 designs.
They shouldn't pose too much trouble if his designs work fine.

JPS-205

Alpha Sorry to ask you more how do I put your ship in my game?

CursedPh4nt0m

Alpha You did take a look at his previous attempts, didn't you? He seemingly lacks the experience to beat something with more efficiency than the ingame ships. Your Plainswalker should be fine, but the Dauntless packs quite a punch and would likely cripple most of his builds with it's alpha strike.

Alpha

JPS-205 Click on the image to open the imgur website, then drag the ship directly into your game.

Alpha

CursedPh4nt0m That's why he needs to see and realise this. I'm allowing him to build ships costing at most twice as much as mine to not make it too difficult. Yet this way he will learn the importance of optimalisation.

Some people you don't need to tell something, you need to show them.

CursedPh4nt0m

Alpha I mostly agree with your point, I just think fighting the Dauntless would've been rather depressing for him. And thanks for helping me with this guy, got some stuff to do myself.

I just realised we turned Northerners GiF-ship-submission-page into a private ship-building lesson for JPS. Hope nobody minds...

JPS-205

Alpha Actually practice is better than theory, this alpha challenge made me
with me to remodel my entire ship.

fighting other ships improves your desine more than any advice already said of this forum, thanks Alpha.

aliaz, I'm almost winning you.

JPS-205

Alpha one thing I realized is that your ship somehow managed to exceed the maximum size limit of construction, how did it do that?

Alpha

CursedPh4nt0m I suppose I can create a building guild , where I'll try to get people to an okay building level. I guess I'll do that tomorrow.

Northerner

CursedPh4nt0m i don't mind at all, a lot of the premise behind Galaxy in Flames is to help people get better at the game and prepare them for MP. So I try to encourage this sort of behavior