Problem in targeting

akinata

there is a bug in the targeting system.
all my roof weapons that can't fire through the ship wont fire (unless you target a part. since AI always target parts they are fine when the AI is handeling the ship) when there is some parts near them like a shield.
tho they will start firing if you remove what is around them.
if you put back the shield after deletion the ship will continue to act normally unless you save the ship and load it back.
you can use this
image https://i.imgur.com/fL18qSg.png
as a test

go in creative, put a target on junk or an ennemy. target the ennemy with this ship without targeting a part it wont fire. if you target a part it will fire tho and stop when the targeted part is destroyed.

now go in build mod and remove the 2 shields (leave no corridor in its place) and it will start shooting freely.
put back the shields and it will still shoot freely
save it, load it, and it will stop shooting freely again unless you replace the shields with new ones
just for info this weapon has no particular code and its turrets share the same code as the vanilla turret. its just that the turret is in the middle of a big square instead of a round hull.

another stupid thing, when using this green bull ship against any foes the turrets fire only on sight. but when you put it against a clone of itself the turrets will suddenly fire through the ship without any reasons.
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image https://i.imgur.com/Kpl1BPq.png

Walt

Have you tried setting AllowFireWithBlockedLOS = true?

akinata

Walt i don't want them to fire through the ship. If i set a low SourceShipCollisionDelay the gun will still fire because it would not be blocked by its sight anyway.
i believe this targeting problem never occured before.

the fact that it shoot depending on what part you put near it makes it even wierder.
i know you changed the way targeting works. i could fire through one block of armor with the railgun turret i made before but not anymore.

the gun fire without problem when you target manually a particular part so the automatic ship targeting is at fault. (like i said since the AI controlled ships automaticly target parts they have no issues)

Walt

Where is the actual weapon located? If it's within the ship's collision geometry, then that's the issue. Putting weapons inside collision geometry without setting AllowFireWithBlockedLOS = true just isn't supported -- it's likely to cause weird problems targeting in some cases depending on how the collision geometry happens to be generated, which can change depending on how the ship is designed and whether it was build piece-by-piece or loaded from a file. Setting SourceShipCollisionDelay has no effect on the weapon's targeting.

akinata

then why does it work when you manually target a part and not when you target the whole ship?

Walt

akinata The "search for a target" algorithm is different from the "can i fire at my specific target" algorithm, so it doesn't surprise me that there are situations when one would work fine and the other does not. I suspect there are also situations when manually targeting also doesn't work.

akinata

Walt manually targeting parts always work.