Triangle Firing Port Experiments.

RedAndCosmoteer

DraconisTheWyvern

Eyes melt because of reactor spam

DraconisTheWyvern

for clarification of testing the Archeangle was not given an AI in the experiments but both were placed directly in front of each other and one had an allegiance switch after being loaded fully. It was purely a test on triangular emplacement.

G4L4XY

(I rarely play vanilla. Did you ping me to like this?)

DraconisTheWyvern

G4L4XY vanilla or not the principle remains the same (granted ive not played around with the mods that have roof/wall guns.

DraconisTheWyvern

G4L4XY
image https://i.imgur.com/mZ1kfDh.png <--this ship is a proof of concept. weapon capacity is not lost; the general idea here is to limit the amount of weapon interference caused by weapons being right next to each other. so angling the weapons in a semi-triangle fashion should in theory help prevent this weapon interference by allowing the weapons to sorta fire over each other. of course there is still a degree of weapon interference and is still better to take the enemy head on with the broad side but the angling does help some of the weapons get off shots during the approach.

DraconisTheWyvern

Correction: Testing was done with Argonaut not the Archeangle my bad 😛

Guy

You think that's cool? Take a ship with flat sides and turn it 45 degrees.

DraconisTheWyvern

Guy I did not say it was cool and yes I am aware of ships that are built like triangles but the point of this is to do it without a triangle ship.

Lafiel

This ancient (2 years) ship is the answer to all your recent design quests:

Abh defense platform 1
can be found in the community ships mod
image https://i.imgur.com/Z2QWieT.png

Btw. it's called arc and range coverage not this noob rubbish of "cheated range".

DraconisTheWyvern

Lafiel aye aye; btw I did not have design questions just experimenting and posting my experiments.

Lafiel

DraconisTheWyvern btw I did not have design questions just experimenting and posting my experiments.

You are doing tests to get answers to design.

Dibs Trying to get more surface is mostly pointless with the way things are all rectangle builds. The only additional surface you can get are side walls meaning things have to be deeply staggered. This diminishes arcs, range and require turrets. You basically always end up with spiky pyramids or inner walls. Diagonals aren't any better in this regard. They only allow better density via diagonal silhouette / facing.

The gains are largest at small scale. So yeah it's too little to make much of a difference to a wall.

Dibs

I can see the benefit of staggered firing positions making energy consumption smoother (minimally), but i don't think it adds too much advantage to a flat wall design unless you can somehow create a discernible defensive advantage over them with shield, armor and PD placement. It does look like it protects the guns better from multiple ships though. the greater benefit for these sort of experiments would be in trying to create more surface area to fire from without hindering your firing angles as much, DPS usually trumps defensive plays. L shaped ships do this quite well, as to U shaped missile ships a la "Terror"

Dibs

Lafiel You never know, no one tried diagonal ships until someone experimented and got them working decently. The more people playing around like this, the greater the chance of innovation coming to the way we all design.

Lafiel

Dibs That some one was yours truely 😉 Before V, U shape, and yes rotators where viable against walls.

DeletedAccount

TBH the only weapon i could think of that benefits this are missiles,take a look at @Equalizer's U Missile Ship,Via the triangular shape,he was able to fit more missile launchers,BTW i'm talking about this thing:
image https://i.imgur.com/2Q49Gmb.png
although i could be proven wrong
Edit:Maybe ions too

CATMASTER

Since still no one have anwsered this question with ions,so im here to do that.
image https://i.imgur.com/YLyrMHa.jpg
this is one of my ship

Bevan

CATMASTER destiny you might wanna make a cannon/laser version

Bevan

CATMASTER btw free real estate

CATMASTER

Bevan normaly only missile and ion works well for this since they dont really have a firing arc problem

Bevan

CATMASTER oh yeah.. forgot about the delay of lasers and cannons