Rotation AI ignores current turn speed

Dalas120

Minor bug - when turning, the rotation AI ignores the ship's current turn speed. For example, my ship is currently at 0 facing and turning clockwise quickly, when I issue a move order facing -120 degrees. Instead of continuing to thrust clockwise (taking advantage of momentum), my ship will try to turn counterclockwise at first, slowing the turn.

Here's an example of what I mean:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/pr2mzs1d1jvd9jp/turn%20bug.savedgame

There's also a very annoying "bug" where ships will never reach their max turn speed because they want to decelerate to stop at the target (even though the player keeps moving the target to keep the ship spinning). This ship is an example of what I'm talking about - even though it has a huge theoretical max turn speed, it can never achieve it because it's trying to stop at the target point. Try and make it spin quickly and you'll see what I mean.

image https://i.imgur.com/scS7hsB.png

The best solution I can think of to this is to add an autofire option to thrusters, which I'm pretty sure has been requested already. I don't remember if/what the reason was to not add it though.

Walt

Dalas120 Minor bug - when turning, the rotation AI ignores the ship's current turn speed. For example, my ship is currently at 0 facing and turning clockwise quickly, when I issue a move order facing -120 degrees. Instead of continuing to thrust clockwise (taking advantage of momentum), my ship will try to turn counterclockwise at first, slowing the turn.

Here's an example of what I mean:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/pr2mzs1d1jvd9jp/turn%20bug.savedgame

Less of a bug, more of a non-existent feature. It might be easy to implement, so I'll add it to my list to look at before the next update.

Dalas120 There's also a very annoying "bug" where ships will never reach their max turn speed because they want to decelerate to stop at the target (even though the player keeps moving the target to keep the ship spinning). This ship is an example of what I'm talking about - even though it has a huge theoretical max turn speed, it can never achieve it because it's trying to stop at the target point. Try and make it spin quickly and you'll see what I mean.

This is really a U.I. question: How does the player indicate that they want their ship to turn indefinitely as opposed to face a specific direction?

Or more generally, how does the player indicate a desired velocity instead of a desired location/direction? Right now there's no way to indicate velocity because all the controls are basically "go here".

One solution is to use WASDQE to control linear and rotational velocity. That's a pretty big can of worms to open, though, and has a lot of other implications.

Walt

Dalas120 The best solution I can think of to this is to add an autofire option to thrusters, which I'm pretty sure has been requested already. I don't remember if/what the reason was to not add it though.

I don't think there's a reason not to add it. I'll put it on my list.

Mc2

Dalas120

The best solution I can think of to this is to add an autofire option to thrusters, which I'm pretty sure has been requested already. I don't remember if/what the reason was to not add it though

Yes, wee need it.

Walt

I don't think there's a reason not to add it. I'll put it on my list.

You can adjust advanced comands UI by new buttons.
Autofire for thurster using for flight direction. In case player chose one thurster(or group) Part UI will have same button for autofire in menu.
And add undo last comand, wery helpfull in fleets battles but has sense even in single ship games.

image https://i.imgur.com/tqUlqb5.png

nop

Walt This is really a U.I. question: How does the player indicate that they want their ship to turn indefinitely as opposed to face a specific direction?

Holding Ctrl while issuing a movement or rotation command which is not relative to another ship creates a "self-relative" move which the ship can never reach (but it will try).