Galaxy in Flames 0.7.5 Update Labor Intensive (0.14.7 Compatible)(Dead Mod))

Oneye

Northerner the ship in the video had 2 missiles on each side. And the top one (plus this one) had 2 extra reactors right behind the shields (i think?)

Northerner

Oneye here is his ship at the end of the video.

image https://i.imgur.com/i8v99DK.png

Oneye

Northerner Ok, here one is, the Mistress, I will try to make a few more anti-kiters so they will be more common.
image https://i.imgur.com/5vTvbtx.png

Oneye

Northerner Ok, so for this one, it is moving too fast for even small lasers to hit it. Ion beams will not be of any use because of the AI stupid habit of setting unnecessary attack angles, moving the ions off their target. The only things I can think of now is a missile kiter that will kite the kiter (but then he could force it to charge him by moving his attack position back). Or a ship which has one rail as most of its budget meant to go through 2 shields and destroy the rails.

Northerner

Oneye Actually I beat it with ions and a whole lot of thrusters. I didn't add many side thrusters because of cost but that seemed to prevent the AI from trying different attack angles. Here is what I beat it with.

image https://i.imgur.com/rcrChEc.png

Oddly without reverse thrusters the AI will not go into attack range....

Oneye

Northerner Well it's nice to be proven wrong.

Oneye

Northerner But that is a lot more than 250k...

Northerner

Oneye The only problem is that if the opponents ship has a reactor dedicated to a shield then the ions wont get through. And this ship only works on rail gun and some missile kites, cannon kites will eat this ship. In short you will always be able to kite some how some way. If i wanted to "eliminate" kiting I would need as many anti kite ships as there are ships currently in the mod. All these anti-kite ships are going to is be easy cash to the people not kiting and make people who do kite sweat a lot ha ha!

Northerner

Oneye whoops wrong one! you weren't suppose to see that one ha ha!

image https://i.imgur.com/YQIUFAi.png

Oneye

Northerner That one loses in my tests, I tried something very similar but it also fails.

Northerner

Oneye It wins 2 out of 3 times for me ill run it some more and see but it usually wins at least on my end.

edit : out of 5 battles it won 4. what are you doing differently in your tests?

Oneye

Northerner For me it's 4/5 are losing. I'm using battle helper, your ship vs the TST KTE 3.
Edit: I did another 5 battles and in total it wins 4/10 battles.

Oneye

Well here's one that can beat the kite from the video. Barbarian:

image https://i.imgur.com/mFTDndJ.png

Northerner

Oneye Well I think the TST KTE's are actually more powerful than the kite from the video so we'll just test the anti-kites against the video ship I called Rival so we don't get some world ending anti-kites ha ha! And I am impressed with that Anti-Kite! Ill add that the normal worlds with your consent of course. And instead of calling them anti-kites how about we just call them interceptors? sounds much better.

Alpha

Northerner

Oneye
I also made a ship to take out the ship from the video. It is one of the most ugly things I've made...

image https://i.imgur.com/U5rTrdj.png
Ready Aim Fire

It is cheaper than Oneye's, but also less effective. There is the large luck factor of hitting the critical points, can take out a shield in one hit, and the shot keeps going afterwards.
Instead of charging at the target, it is actually so slow the kite cannot kite away. By strafing it will be able to get itself in a beneficial position. This way it is best against railgun only, almost unarmored kites.

Northerner

Alpha I like the your creativity in that you are basically saying "fuck it, you have to come to me!" and I really don't know why I hadn't thought of that! Ill try it out and see how consistent it is. While this ship might not get into the mod It does give me a whole slew of ideas! and for that I thank you!

Alpha

Northerner It is indeed more meant as a proof of concept, I totally figured out it would not be able to get into a mod (A cheap fighter could take it out, when piloted with skill.). But yeah, why chase a ship which already has the benefit of range? Let them come to you, and fight like equals.

Northerner

Alpha Well one problem with the idea is that if have a kite the super slow ship the AI will tilt the ship to attempt to get more thrust to chase. angling the cannon off target and opening weak points. While I like the idea the AI doesn't.

Alpha

Northerner Yeah, that's why it isn't always succesful. I'll keep looking for more ideas.