ABANDONED MOD (no download links)

Ultranova

Mezmerro Let's look on the bright side. The fact that I saw screenshots of the Stats being tested by Walt in the Cosmoteer discord is telling me that the functionality will be coming sooner than a year.

chief_chaman478

this is the rebel tiger i built. fully rebel ship, unless ancient javs and ancient 4 burst cannons are r-upa. dunno what it would classify as but it carries 6 fighters.
image https://i.imgur.com/urEd4TR.png

Ultranova

chief_chaman478 In classifications, I would say that it's a support ship, since it carries fighters.

And yeah, Ancient weapons don't have an explicit faction, even though the JAVs are used on Pacisa Federation ships (which lead up to the SGG and R-UPA), they're not tied to the Rebels or the R-UPA.

chief_chaman478

Ultranova k thx
yea just paired it against the biggest in the hall of fame and it did pretty good but the nose is prone to blowing up. its good at keeping up its shields as it has sectioned off crew. i have a gaming laptop with a geforce gtx but the game still crashed. ill try again tomorrow and feeling the heat of my laptop it should be fine. overall a good ship if i say so myself. also i like the looks of the upcoming update. goodnight

Mezmerro

With so many weapons giving impulse with hits at higher levels I end up blowing enemy ships into multiple pieces, throwing those around and chasing them all over the map. Some kind of long range beam/hitscan to snipe out that lone reactor left on the remaining chunk of enemy ship before the stream of rockets and roof lasers propels it to mach7 would certainly help.

chief_chaman478

i fixed some problems like the few rupa turrets on the nose and the missing halways on some penetration cannons, i also gave it a paintjob. sorry for posting again but i didnt want an incomplete ship in here
image https://i.imgur.com/0VXavq3.png

kola2134

chief_chaman478 interesting.....

chief_chaman478

kola2134 why thank you

chief_chaman478

sorry for the ship spam but these are some fighters i liked,

image https://i.imgur.com/ZTYCuJT.png

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image https://i.imgur.com/jLjAS0b.png

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kola2134

helix Ai ship maybe, you decide what it can fit
image https://i.imgur.com/Uj4gdX2.png

chief_chaman478

kola2134
quick tip four small reactors create more energy for the same amount of space than the normal ones

kola2134

chief_chaman478 i know that, but i designed it that way so if i have to vanilla it it is easier, also it is meant to be weak, and not that effective, like a mass produced ship. it is designed for numbers.

Mezmerro

I've being looking the code for a while, and found several strange things:
1) All thrusters are instant-fire, while vanilla ones have start and stop times on anything but small thrusters.
2) Thrust and fuel usage is all over the place compared to vanilla thrusters and even each other:
Small
Cost HP Thrust EpS
G1: 300 1000 75 10
V: 500 1000 100 30
G3: 600 800 150 50
Medium
Cost HP Thrust EpS
G1: 1500 2000 120 20
V: 1500 2000 300 100
G3: 2000 2000 275 100
Big
Cost HP Thrust EpS
G1: 4000 4000 200 30
V: 4000 4000 800 200
G3: 6000 4000 700 225
Huge
Cost HP Thrust EpS
G1: 12000 9000 500 40
V: 10000 9000 2000 400
G3: 12000 9000 2500 400
As you may see, some supposedly "cheap" G1 are more expensive than vanilla, and some supposedly "powerful" G3 are lacking behind vanilla thrusters.

Also small beam turrets are literally incapable of firing continuously because of their tiny battery size - they run out of ammo faster than 2 loaders game assigns to them could reload them even from adjacent reactor. If they had double battery size, they could have 3-4 loaders that actually could supply them with continuous stream of batteries.

CaptainRedstone

Mezmerro The G1 thrusters are by no means cheap. If you read the parts' description, they have an equal thrust to vanilla thrusters, but use less fuel in the process. The G3 thrusters are all directly more powerful than vanilla, though they may not have the same cost/thrust ratio, because surface area is part of balance as well

Ultranova

Mezmerro 1) All thrusters are instant-fire, while vanilla ones have start and stop times on anything but small thrusters.

That was intentional, at least, I think it was. I wasn't happy with the vanilla thrusters having to charge up before thrusting when I first coded the thrusters, but it was so long ago that I honestly can't remember.

Mezmerro 2) Thrust and fuel usage is all over the place compared to vanilla thrusters and even each other

Yeah, I was sloppy when I first coded the thrusters. They probably the oldest parts in all of GCW, because everything else has either been recoded because I got off my butt to do stuff or because they were broken by an update and the mod upgrader didn't exist.

Mezmerro Also small beam turrets are literally incapable of firing continuously because of their tiny battery size - they run out of ammo faster than 2 loaders game assigns to them could reload them even from adjacent reactor. If they had double battery size, they could have 3-4 loaders that actually could supply them with continuous stream of batteries.

Are you talking a single laser beam emitter or two placed side by side? Cause back in the old day, they were some of the most powerful weapons. Yes, I nerfed them to hell, but yes, they needed to be nerfed. I have considered giving them the capacity for 3 batteries, but that'll require a graphics update for them as well, which I simply don't have time for in this update.

the-good-guy what is the helix 3.0 AI? i cant see any major differences between regular ai's

An experiment gone wrong.

the-good-guy

what is the helix 3.0 AI? i cant see any major differences between regular ai's

CursedPh4nt0m

the-good-guy ~~It's a trick. Ultra want's us all to think it's weak before he adds the actual thing and has it destroy our fleets.~~
Have his reply to the first mention of Helix AI 3.0:

Ultranova Yeah, I was messing with AI and decided for the heck of it to make Helix AI 3.0, which is not as powerful as Helix OMEGA. Cosmoteer just doesn't like AI better than AI Normal

Mezmerro

Had a few crashes today with trying to raid core systems.
Looks like some ships are missing from mode files, namely:
R-UPA HR-21 Heavy Gunship
R-UPA Heavy Cruiser.ship

Fixed it by fixing file names in r-upa ships folder.
Heavy cruiser is brutal, but manageable with careful positioning. That central armour beam really messes things up.

Ultranova

Mezmerro Fixed for the next version, apparently I can't spell :p

Mezmerro

When we're at a point of fixing, could you fix all of the lasers and cannons in the mod to make their projectiles targettable by the flak? I know it's a lot of work, but it must be done, lest it leaves powerful vanilla weapon without much use against craft with no missiles or rockets.

Ultranova

Mezmerro I'll see about it, but I've never been a fan of the flak cannon shooting down lasers, because it doesn't really make sense if you think about it from a lore perspective (which is the perspective I commonly take when modding).

It also means that point defence would be able to shook down lasers, which is a big no no in my books, because you're able to spam the roof-PD quite easily. Settling on a compromise where bullets and missiles can be shot down would suit me better, but I'm open to other interpretations.