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I'm fine with his veto. He's put a chunk of his life into a product that is trying to go from personal to profitable.

If we're going to continue having this kind of contest going forward, and I hope we do, even a bit of generic feedback would seem helpful for both sides. What were his top 3 reasons for vetoing ships this round? It would get him better results for fewer hard feelings.

If I were to guess after seeing both threads, I'd say he's valuing staying on brand more than novelty. He probably already had some opinion about what there was too little/much of. He knows what's coming for the game, and might have future plans to take into account. Good ships, but a pretty harsh cull for community voting.

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I didn't even have a time to make more competitive ships from my Neo-Z faction. Let's go back to roleplay and kick some ass!

SteelPhoenix What were his top 3 reasons for vetoing ships this round?

1. About 1/3 of the fleets submitted were clearly of lesser quality and creativity than the others. 1/3 is actually lower than it usually is; usually about 1/2 of ships are "easy vetoes". After cutting those fleets, that left an impressive 20+ fleets of good-to-great quality, which I felt was too much to move on to moderator voting, so I decided to get more picky and cut a handful more...

2. The ships in the faction didn't have a strong enough unifying theme. If you see those ships individually, you should be able to tell pretty clearly that they belong to the same faction.

3. Inconsistent quality of ships in the faction. Some factions had 1-2 great ships, but the rest weren't as high-quality.

4. Ships in the faction were too similar, each ship basically feeling like a miniature version of the largest, which isn't very interesting.

5. The faction's ships "broke the 4th wall" in the sense that they were clearly designed to resemble something from the real world (like an animal or bug). Cool for sure, but it makes Cosmoteer's universe feel less consistent and real. (I realize many of the old BH ships are guilty of this, but I'm trying to make Cosmoteer's universe more fully-realized as we get closer to release.)

6. Paint quality not quite up to par.

I hope that helps!

Thank you Walt, that was exactly what I was hoping for.

Walt Just wondering, did you take into account the lore writeup as well or did you just ignore it? And would the written lore be included into the game as well?

dieaready Just wondering, did you take into account the lore writeup as well or did you just ignore it? And would the written lore be included into the game as well?

I decided not to since it wasn't required and some players didn't have a write-up. (Also I wouldn't veto a faction just because I didn't like the lore.) I will consider adding the lore to the ship descriptions depending on how appropriate I think it is for the game.

Walt Inconsistent quality of ships in the faction. Some factions had 1-2 great ships, but the rest weren't as high-quality.

Ships in the faction were too similar, each ship basically feeling like a miniature version of the largest, which isn't very interesting.

Yup, that's my fleet summarized. I had a good ship, a bad ship, and a miniature version of the good ship. Thank you

Aww man, both Nord and Polar's entries were really good.

bibletech55 yea same

bibletech55 that is because you are trying to preview it. Just download the file and unzip...

bibletech55 Press download?

Second and third place goes to @Cosmopyr and @Hatter respectively

All three factions will be added into the game

Congrats everyone! I am also going to add United Terran Directorate by @Saris as "Walt's Pick".

So 4 factions out of 6 contestants get added to the game ^^

If you had to include 6 instead of 12, you could at least change some rules, there was literally very little point in voting on this particular contest.

In any case, congrats to the winners! The factions here definitely earned their place in the game!

Nordwolf If you had to include 6 instead of 12, you could at least change some rules, there was literally very little point in voting on this particular contest.

I agree that 6 was probably too few. Will keep that in mind for next time. Thanks!