Large Reactor Prototype 1

Nordwolf

Equalizer Thanks, I haven't thought of disabling their ability to supply storages! Even though I used the priorities before for other types of crew (like far away operator only crew or higher priority on certain parts like engine rooms), very useful.

FlameWolfSpirit

Maybe u can Make the small reactor about 1,000 hp, medium, 2,000 hp and the large 4,000

Namek

Walt

I have a small idea about the energy storage being able to store large batteries.

What if, you can change what kind of battery it stores. (Like the missile storage changing the kind of missile.)

If you set it to larger batteries, it changes shape, and stores a smaller amount of batteries. (Since they are larger, and it would balance it.) However, it would support all battery kind input, since small batteries would fuse into larger ones.

The big reason why one would want this option, is all about what it would be powering. If the energy storage is near a lot of small parts which needs less power each, one would choose to have smaller batteries.

If it is near a shield, or other parts which needs way more energy, one would pick the large batteries option, so crew travel less.

If it seems unbalanced in your opinion, you could make crew travel slower with larger batteries. (Which was mentioned before I believe.)

Hope you like my concept.

Walt

Namek I'm not philosophically opposed to that, but it might be in conflict with another idea I'm considering: Adding a "pick up" or "fill up" time to reactors depending on battery size (i.e. 0.5 seconds for small, 1.0 for medium, 1.5 for large), but leaving storages as instant. The idea with the pick-up time is to reduce the benefit to putting larger reactors very close to things like ions and shields. But in that case, if storages could change battery size (and still have pick-up be instant), that could potentially make storages OP.

Namek

Walt

Well, not really, since larger battery sizes will have less slots inside the storage, meaning it contains the same total of power as small batteries. (Maybe even less for balance reasons.)

So, when a crew member picks up a larger battery, it also looses power faster, meaning other crew will have to get power faster.

Maybe Im not seeing a huge balance issue that you do?

chief_chaman478

Walt make storages OP

i never thought id see that

Nordwolf

Namek The "huge balance issue" is the the saving on crew and resupply time, not on actual energy here. So with a large battery storage, crew needs to only get two batteries to resupply a whole shield, which will indeed deplete the storage faster but it would also make for immortal shields until storage is run out.
To be honest sometimes I think it's an alright thing to have, but they should be looked at with intense scrutiny to make sure they are not too op. (I like shields in general being better, but need to see the implications)

SpaceCat

Walt discourage compartmentalization

only costs a mild laugh around here ... (as we say in DE & AT)

Didn't have time to try it so far.
What i can say tho is that for truly "zentralized reactor design" crew has to deliver energy faster, by either running faster or starting to deliver earlier.

🙂

Kroom

SpaceCat Crew deliver more power as there are bigger batteries now, 2x and 3x. Weapons that have big energy buffers are easily replenished by less crew using conveyors.

Nordwolf

SpaceCat You might be surprised but it is very much worth it cost-wise making fully connected ships with the current state of larger reactors (I made a 2 reactor barge and 0neye made a whole bunch of 1-2 reactor 1.5 mill standard design ships), it's just that orbiters benefit from it much more atm (cause you need much more power in a small amount of space with them, so you end up draining whole large reactors without much interconnectivity anyway)

Walt

Kroom They still have longer latency though than closer reactors, unless you use storages (as expect most people will do).

ucyimDa_Ruler

Kroom The only exception here is the PD's. I still yearn for an option to always deliver a constant supply of energy if the weapon is in range of an enemy/missile.

Kroom

ucyimDa_Ruler PDs has a very small energy buffer, you will need to place battery storages nearby and have a special crew role to fill them.

SpaceCat

Reading all the benefits of large reactors & larger batteries, it makes me wonder if the power per credit buff is necessary to motivate using them. (Or if it makes them OP because you get simply more power for less credits.)

Also chatted with @0neye about perma-boost ... wee agreed that it would be time for cooldown for boosters now, because 9x permanent boost per big reactor might be overkill.

Walt

SpaceCat Also chatted with @0neye about perma-boost ... wee agreed that it would be time for cooldown for boosters now, because 9x permanent boost per big reactor might be overkill.

Yeah I think I agree with this. Maybe they can't be recharged while boosting and once out of power shut down until fully recharged? (Kind of like shields.)

SpaceCat

Was wondering what downsides large reactors have - OK:

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VarroWayland

SpaceCat Think of it as a very large viewport.

SpaceCat

Walt Maybe they can't be recharged while boosting and once out of power shut down until fully recharged? (Kind of like shields.)

Seems fine! ... then finetune it simply by adjusting total boost time.

(Alternative idea would be that they can always be recharged but overheat and then have to cooldown.)