Nuke explosions disconnected from visual when shot down

Dalas120

When a nuke fired from a fast-moving ship is shot down, the visual shockwave appears to keep moving with the speed of the ship the nuke was fired from. But the actual explosion damage seems to expand relative to a fixed position on the grid.

Would it make sense for nukes to not explode at all when shot down? Right now there are some cases where there's virtually no point to shooting down a nuke, since a ship can move on top of the expanding explosion and take damage anyways. This is also how modern-day nukes (and most military explosives) work - the uranium/plutonium/whatever is too stable to explode unless the bomb is intact.

Lafiel

Dalas120 That's just the effects and due to their lifetime.
That's not true. Nukes have the strongest conventional explosives available in order to squeeze all that metal. It's only been about a decade or two since they got upgraded with explosives that are much less prone to explode when they are hit hard e.g. falling from a truck.

Walt

Dalas120 When a nuke fired from a fast-moving ship is shot down, the visual shockwave appears to keep moving with the speed of the ship the nuke was fired from. But the actual explosion damage seems to expand relative to a fixed position on the grid.

I believe this was fixed along with the "projection" fix, but I'll double check to make sure.

Dalas120 Right now there are some cases where there's virtually no point to shooting down a nuke, since a ship can move on top of the expanding explosion and take damage anyways.

Do you think that will be true even once this bug is fixed?

Dalas120

Walt Do you think that will be true even once this bug is fixed?

Is the plan still to use the pushable physics object for nuke explosions? If so, probably. A ship could run into the explosion object and take damage, even if the nuke was shot down. Though it might be less of an issue once the explosion can't project inside of ships.

Walt

Dalas120 Is the plan still to use the pushable physics object for nuke explosions?

Yes, though the pushable object will inherit the frame of reference of the nuke (i.e., the velocity of the ship that fired the nuke when it was fired).

Kroom

I think the idea from Dalas will help a lot, case the nuke was taken down by pd and i think it should not hit the ship.

Walt Yes, though the pushable object will inherit the frame of reference of the nuke (i.e., the velocity of the ship that fired the nuke when it was fired).

What happen if a bomber drops a nuke to a stationary ship, and that ship's pd destroy the nuke, will the explosion continue in its way and collision the ship?

Lafiel

It's probably more game like to have explosions in empty space be tide to the grid.

It's simple physic (ballistics+kinematics) that's why the navy drops gun-cwis in favor of anti-missile missiles because fast missiles would still do major damage. In space with no air resistance it's far more dangerous.