Gatling turret (PD and anti-fighter)

Master_Yoba

3x2 room with 2x2 roof-mounted turret, turning 360 or 270 degrees, with firing radius like a heavy laser and scatter like the existing PD. Deals twice less damage to armor, but passes through one shield, and stopping on a second shield. This makes PD very useful for cruisers and battleships requiring protection from fighters, but almost useless against large ships if they are not armed with missiles. It will also add to the game a new class of ships - corvettes (support ships), which will improve the tactical component of the game.

Ageofdoom

Gat PD has been discussed and proposed already and while I like what you are saying we will only see this in mod.

Actually moding in the features we would all like to see is not a bad idea then Walt can decide to main it if it works out.

ImNotLaffng

Roof mounted weapons without a trade off are an automatic no. If breaks the balance of the game as even if they do little damage, the idea pf a roof weapon breaks the whole idea of surface area use and that a weapon is a both a means to attack the enemy, and a weak-point.

Ageofdoom

ImNotLaffng I agree only so far as frigates, corvettes, and small gunships are concerned as larger ships require weapon that utilizes their space more effectively.

Consider if you will a $1000 ship will get out gunned by 4-5 $200 ships so the question then becomes is it more worth while to make a fleet small ships or one big ship.

ImNotLaffng

Ageofdoom I don't think you understand me, roof weapons break the game's balance. Someone could make a clump of weapons, bury it in armor, and then be able to attack people without endangering themselves. This breaks the fundamental idea of how ship building in Cosmoteer works.

Master_Yoba

ImNotLaffng a square of armor with turrets will be nothing more than a fixed space station that any large ship can destroy just because these turrets do not break through double shields

ImNotLaffng

Master_Yoba I use this as an example, I'm just trying to communicate the idea that weapons in Cosmoteer are a use of surface area, and that anything that can throw a punch can take one. I'm arguing against roof weapons, just because this one would have some limits doesn't mean it doesn't go against how the game works.

Ageofdoom

ImNotLaffng I understand your concerns however roof mounted weapons won't break the game, mostly due to size difference they would only be able to be mounted effectively on large ships, and besides once you roll up all the weapons on the edges of a large ship you are going to be doing a lot of grinding in order to actually defeat the ship. Small ships on the other hand are destroyed almost at the same time as their weapons are destroyed, sooner in most cases.

ImNotLaffng

Ageofdoom a lot of grinding in order to actually defeat the ship

This is what I'm trying to say, it breaks the pattern of how ships are built in Cosmoteer by allowing weapons to work even when not being able to be hit, allowing people to cheese the system.

Ageofdoom

ImNotLaffng so you want to watch as your rather large Borg cube is declawed then ground into nothingness with out any resistance along the way.

ImNotLaffng

Ageofdoom That is how the game works, weapons taking surface area is the balance of the game.

Ageofdoom

ImNotLaffng Try out reassemble for a bit. That game is rather similar to this one.

Edit: sorry if my response sounds rude but all that I see happening with above ship turrets is so design philosophies changing cause right now when I build a big ship it feels like im arming the this with deguls and burette 50 Cal's in stead of "run for your life" cannons.

Russian_Community

Make cosmoteer Great again

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