New Weapons Ideas

TEHHOLYMELON

EMP Beam : Aimed at an enemy to take the energy from the energy using device. Partially aimable. Does almost no damage and only good for breaking through shields better than the Electro-Zapper thingy weapon. Can go through Shields and take the power away from anything almost instantly (takes 1-2 seconds to disable an ion beam emitter). Obviously yellow color scheme.
Ion-Pulse Emitter : Instead of using a continuous beam it uses all batteries stored in it (Max 10) and (only when full) releases a beam that breaks through a shield fully (or some damage like that). CAN fire every 5 seconds if supplied with the 10 Batteries needed quickly enough. Turquoise-Green Color scheme.

That's all i have now. Feel free to post your ideas here too (defensive parts E.G. Bubble/Circular shield are also welcome)

ja7833

From playing other vaguely similar games lately I think the number one new weapon missing is one of the oldest/most basic: a heavy machine gun. Replacing the small laser as "the cheapest and most generic weapon in the game."

Uses standard cannon ammo but, unlike the Large Cannon that needs four ammo for one shot, one cannon ammo creates 4 shots
Magazine holds four ammo for a rapid fire of 16 shots

Tobi-wan_Kenobi

ja7833
Ultranova I definitely agree that we need machine guns. However, from a developmental standpoint, how would they be different in role from a small laser? If it's just a small laser that uses ammo instead of energy, it's not unique enough.

Maybe it can double as a PD? Like a more expensive, less accurate, 1x2 PD that can also damage enemies?

Or would it be different in some other way?

Ultranova

The one thing Cosmoteer lacks is rapid firing weapons. I was looking forward to the Laser Gattling until it was replaced with the Plasma Gattling which was ultimately replaced with the Mass Disintegrater.

I've lost a little bit of hope with it.

ja7833

Ultranova
Tobi-wan_Kenobi

I think the Mass Disintegrater will fill a weapon need but, not that of the cheap/general use rapid firing weapon which is still needed.

Assuming standard cannon ammo can be split (I would think it is possible as it already gets combined) I think:

one cannon ammo creates 4 shots
Magazine holds four ammo for a rapid fire of 16 shots

and then maybe Walt's https://forum.cosmoteer.net/d/6058-a-discussion-that-used-to-be-about-capacitors (but for ammo) would allow for other on-site cannon ammo for additional rapid shooting?

I think adding a limited PD application would also be a good.

Ultranova

Tobi-wan_Kenobi from what I see from the Trello (https://trello.com/c/iOTvNuqV/308-mass-disintigrator), the Mass Distegrator (please be rapid firing) is a Machine gun type thing that does heaps of damage to armour (Physical parts) and not a lot of damage to shields. The Laser Blaster does a relatively equal amount of damage to both.

Tobi-wan_Kenobi

Ultranova Ah yeah, I know about the mass disintegrator. I was talking about machine guns.

Maybe the difference with machine guns it that they could be continuous-firing. One long stream of low damage rounds instead of a single burst of damage like the laser. And it could have a spread to it to increase likelihood of a hitting, but decrease precision. Laser = precise. Machine gun = bullet hose.

Ultranova

Tobi-wan_Kenobi

I would like to see a machine gun that uses magazines of bullets instead of energy and has two modes:

Burst fire = Lower Rof but higher accuracy.
Automatic = Higher Rof but lower accuracy.

Not really a Machine gun, more like a hybrid of a burst cannon and machine gun

Catelyn

ja7833 standard ammo is in game code a single ammo per bullet

Catelyn

Catelyn you can use An ammoconverter to turn 1 into 4 of something else

ja7833

Catelyn

I think think a heavy machine gun would only work as the most generic and basic weapon in all respects: cost, size, and damage, the sole redeeming attribute being the high-rate of fire. BUT, if we had to introduce new ammo types or convert the existing cannon ammo I think it would lose the important aspects of generic and basic.

Maybe in compromise a high rate of fire cannon - similar to the large cannon but instead of the four cannon ammo becoming one shot just a rapid succession of 4 standard cannon shots?

Catelyn

ja7833 ah, I see the confision, An ammoconverter is Just a piece of code that says 1 ammo in ammo-in -> 4 ammo in barrel, this code can be placed in anything, including weapons

dafeeeeeeeeeesh

TEHHOLYMELON i want weapons that you can scale up and get expensive and use more ammo or batterys but deal exponentially more damage so you can build 4x4 cannons 10x10 cannons gaint electro bolters super ion beams and other stuff like that

Ultranova

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Alpha

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neoshaf

I think the game should have more crew killing ability. so there's more than one way to win.
outright destruction should not be the only option, hell it should be the worst option. if you take the ship, you can sell it.
when cannon shells go through armor, they should fragment and bounce around inside the ship, killing the crew and destroying ammunition storage.
with this, there would be new possibilities. weapons, of course, and a medical system. having a well thought out and easy to traverse ship means injured crewmen can get back in the fight faster.

and have players need to think about angling their armor so shells bounce off. also, switch the cannons. the big one should be a big kinetic punch while the small canon penetrates better and fragments inside the ship.