Attack functions

Dibs

I was playing some multiplayer last night and wanted to try out strafing with a speed tank. I concluded that the micro involved made it messy and almost impossible to try with more then 1 ship. My conclusion is that this game would benefit greatly from an orbit function.

With ramming planned as well, a ram setting that auto-corrects its path and doesnt slow down would also be good to see.

If those were implemented then you could toggle between the standard maintain distance and ram/orbit functions

Jagdgeschwader-51

Dibs An orbit function would be pretty neat. Would allow one-sided broadsiders to become a thing

Mc2

Dibs Ship preference attack angle + manually setting attack angle, in case your ship is capable to orbit enemy, then it will do.
But, somehow, maneuvering is messed up in last versions, before that orbiting was ok, and if not intended by designer of game, it will become again possible.

Sombreroman

Dibs Yeah, I'd Definitely like an Orbit function, as to make Flankers more easy to use.

Walt

Mc2 But, somehow, maneuvering is messed up in last versions, before that orbiting was ok, and if not intended by designer of game, it will become again possible.

Please elaborate, I'm not aware of any issues.

Mc2

Walt I tried to do some testing in SP, and there seems all be more or less ok when you fight 1-1, difference is just with thrusters size and delays, and some designes have problem even if thruster are facing to all sides, to stop on set spot and circle around endlesly.
And because last months I ussually play MP only, it looks like that issues are conected with unexpected collision avoidance manueveres when multiple ships are in game,that is when i spoted most of strange movements (or not movements).
Another thing is that i switch version, so often i have to unset and set ship relative attack angle and aplly it for ships to obey orbiting order.
I try to figure out more preciously, but its not easy concentrate in battle to another things than just battle 😃

Mc2

Walt so, bad moving is conected to MP and more tha 1-1 ships. Till now i managed to capture just one example:

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Hereare screens where ship obviously disobey order and change attack angle, this is happening very often. and in this case, no colision avoidance, becase no other ship near.
at the end, my ship ended in the front of enemy ship and stayed there.

Lafiel

Looks to me like the general issue is of the target's turn rate verses the orbiting ship's speed. The orbiting ship has to be more than Distance/HalfTargetShipSize times faster.

Mc2

Lafiel This is another issue and very frustrating, but in screens target turn very very slowly (there was another ship he was targeting) so no way how to take this into consideration.

Mc2

Next ones:
1-Here ships from starting position get order to fly back- they turn to each other and get stuck. luckily some wild orders made them to unstuck.

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2-My ships wa in position marked by green circle, when i recognizted danger from side(blue ship), i ordered my ship to get to position seen on screen. AI disobey order and started to fly forwar max speed, after 5-6 seconds of unssuccesful trying to stop it I made screen. My ships start to cary about my orders after multiple seting new targets and fly possition. I spoted that my start behgave like this in sec when red ship get splited to front armour part and rest.
No other ship or enething behind my ship, what can make my ship to fly forward.

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3- Colision avoidance this time? My ship was in position (green circle) when that debrits of enemy ship fly near (red square)and make my ships to kite, but why, it came from side.

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I try to report as much as possible, but i do not record any game, and ussually when i spot very wierd/frustrating way of moving, I realize ussually to late to take screen at least.

Walt

Mc2 Not sure what's going on. A saved game would be helpful if you can get one.

Mc2

Walt That is problem, this wierd things happened in MP, and lets say, very wierd behaviour not so common.
I try to do some SP testing, but not promise to make it soon, MP is just much more interesting.

ucyimDa_Ruler

I'm finding the same issue (I think). When I give a simple move command the ship tries to fly to the destination but it cannot center on it. Instead it flies or orbits the destination endlessly. I'll try upload a saved game.

Walt

ucyimDa_Ruler When I give a simple move command the ship tries to fly to the destination but it cannot center on it. Instead it flies or orbits the destination endlessly.

This is actually a different issue than the collision avoidance problems that most people are complaining about, but it's still annoying. I've actually made a significant improvement to this issue for the next update. If you get me that saved game, I can verify if I've improved it.

ucyimDa_Ruler hmmm how do I upload a saved game?

Upload it to any file-sharing site and post a link.

ucyimDa_Ruler

hmmm how do I upload a saved game?