Spaceship factories (Cut, paste, and detonate)

Warhead77777

What would I do without the detonators?

TheLastBeacon

Warhead77777
If you use structure blocks, you can click on them, and press self-destruct. It is not only cheaper, but also does a lot less damage.

Warhead77777

TheLastBeacon

Hmm, detonators worked well for me, because I could detonate them all at once. I'll look into it.

I'm testing the second model of TIEs and they are having issues.

TheLastBeacon

Warhead77777
Here should be instructions on how to do it.
First, make your ship. (Just for show)
image https://i.imgur.com/h7KJzUu.png
Then, select the structure block, and go to the three stripes
image https://i.imgur.com/dXImHbM.png
Select self-destruct, and it is done!
image https://i.imgur.com/JtGvxoY.png

the_guy545

Warhead77777 Very interesting concept you got there. And those ship designs are fairly nice.

Warhead77777

Okay, this is very confusing at the moment.

image https://i.imgur.com/xbselo2.png
This is my first B model, which is designed for the most part to be very safe and secure as a design. You will notice that it's built with armor behind parts of the newly installed guns and so on. The issue with it at the moment, is that I was worried about running out of batteries too soon, or having to take forever to reload weapons, or trying to cut costs.

image https://i.imgur.com/jVkcDry.png
This is the B1 model, which has close enough to ten bouts with the B and B2 models. It's designed to cut costs, increase battery storage, and seriously increase firerate. The problem is that if you take out one of the guns, the ammo behind it can easily go up too, and then everything is on fire.

I obviously need to put fire extinguishers in these things. Right now I'm testing without them.

I found that the B model typically won as it was safer, but if the B1 model focused on taking out the gun and then the ammo factory behind it, everything would explode or be on fire.

image https://i.imgur.com/sMggkEN.png
The B2 model was designed to fix that problem, increase firerate, and be generally safer more or less. It performs a lot better, but it still struggles with firing very slowly and costing more than the B1 model.

At the moment I am at a loss as to what model to test with next, or which model to choose. I'm either making the ship not safe enough, or making it cost too much while firing too slowly. I could switch over to mod weapons, but I wanted to take a crack at it without mods first.

Warhead77777

TheLastBeacon
I know how to do that. I just didn't consider it.

B1 is almost 50,000, B2 is almost 53,000.

image https://i.imgur.com/S8pluzc.png
This is the new B3, 56,000. It has roughly the same firerate as the B, but it's much safer. The ammo is well protected, you have a hard time getting too it, and if you do, you simple take off a wing. In all previous models, you could do the same thing by just shooting the armor and the thruster behind it, so it's not much of a loss. The center control station is a lot safer now, and there isn't an obvious weakpoint in the ship.

The other designs, you just direct all your fire at one point, wait a bit, and then the ship is seriously crippled. This ship requires more time to do that, and the crippling isn't as bad. Granted, I want the fire-safety stuff to go somewhere else, but I don't have space for it.

thatPolarBear

Warhead77777 don't use any energy weapons, they use up way to much energy for a drone. Just use 1 ammo factory and 2 small cannons with 4 crew and 2 power storages and a command center. And don't use so much pointless armor nothing will hit you from the back.

Warhead77777

thatPolarBear

And yet it's always the cannons that run out first, way before anything else would run out.

Not to mention that the ammo needed for them explodes and constantly has to be accounted for. You put it anywhere close to anything remotely important and it's all gone.

In fact, in most testing, the cannons fail to hit any precise targets, fire much slower and cost much more. If I could get my hands on just a more powerful laser, I would use that.

Missiles always go for the back, every single time they can. Shaving off a grand or two in armor, to put a 5 grand exploding factory....Not a good sell.

thatPolarBear

Warhead77777 a single ammo factory with out being recharged can produce ammo for 25 seconds producing a total of 62 bullets read more here. Meanwhile a power storage can only power a single small laser for 63 seconds, and after that you are dead in the water with no more power, also the small laser only does 533 damage per second while the ammo factory can sustain 2 cannons which is 2000 damage per second plus penetration and fire.
Also just put a point defence on the front, it's cheaper then all the armor

Warhead77777

thatPolarBear
image https://i.imgur.com/p4cS6i1.png

As far as I understand, this is what you proposed. I put it against a baseline tie fighter, and the result of that was the tie fighter ended up looking like this.

image https://i.imgur.com/DqoH0Sk.png

You are right, this thing is out of energy and it's kinda helpless. It's also only a 27,500 credit unit and it's meant to be expendable.

Your ship costs 42,100 and it ended up looking like this after this same fight.

image https://i.imgur.com/xHN9KiM.png

There is a reason why I moved away from both of these designs, they both have very clear flaws. If I could store bullets for the miniguns on a ship, I would just use those.

GoodMorningCosmoteer

once docking is possible, this is a factory i have planned.
there is three ships it makes, two is the fighters, the other is the resupply.
image https://i.imgur.com/nx50H3k.png

thatPolarBear

GoodMorningCosmoteer why not just but a single reactor on the resuplly ship...

GoodMorningCosmoteer

thatPolarBear
because then the station might as well just make fighters instead in fact the factory wouldn't be needed if it has a reactor on it, the whole reason for the resupply ship there is because it transports the station's batteries while also needing to use the station itself. basically, the resupply ship makes the station have use, otherwise you could just have a carrier that pumps out fighters.

Warhead77777

This is a ship that comes with the game, I felt with a few mods and changes, it could really shine.

image https://i.imgur.com/KUUvH89.jpg

This is what it looks like now, it costs 779,550. Most improvements consist of getting the missiles reloaded faster and replacing the missiles with ones that start huge fires.

image https://i.imgur.com/oOIsArB.jpg

During a one on one fight with its previous model, it did this without suffering much more then some minor engines knocked out. 758,300 in cost, and this previous model was helpless almost. I will be tinkering with this model to make it increasingly more deadly, but this is a good start.