Galaxy Coop

prelol

Hey all,

I suggested the game to a bunch of friends and they all got into the game big time!
We really want to play COOP with eachother, fighting AI and or eachother,
currently the game has this arena styled multiplayer but we're really looking for a feature / mod that gives us this awesome galaxy travel in multiplayer.

are there any plans on this? Any mods?

Thanks in advance!

-pre

zergRush99

prelol you cant mod stuff like this.
And I think cop is planned.

Walt

I definitely want to do some sort of multiplayer co-op, but not sure how exactly it will work yet. It probably won't be the full-on Bounty Hunter mode (especially as I add features to that).

prelol

Walt (a tag might help 😅)

prelol

(love how the creator is so engaged in the forums)

As a C# programmer and hobbiest game dev (yes unity...),
I can get into certain difficulties like multiplayer etc.

since I don't know how the custom game engine works (very intresting subject), I can't really give any "easy" way of implementing Co-op, for instance, I know that in Unity games are build in multiplayer and then the singleplayer mode is (yes we're going technical) a flag to ensure the game doesn't show multiplayer UI etc, after that it hosts a server on the local machine, on a diffrent port and random password, most times another flag stating its singleplayer to the internet so even if the server port got forwarded it wont show up in player's server list.

Again I don't have a single clue how barebones (how hard to program) the multiplayer is on this custom engine...
(in any case its still... bravo really)

If the engine really seperates the singleplayer from the multiplayer (wich i suspect) then yes, thats alot of work.

I suggest prototyping the singleplayer world into a multiplayer enviroment, that way the singleplayer has the same framework as a multiplayer game.

Keep this arena mode (its fun) but for sure add the galaxy co-op too,

Have planets respawn enemies after X seconds/minutes have players spawn at random locations,

(put the server on a difficulty mode, not individual players. )(thats a bit of a duh)

Have players be able to customize their own ships and if on the same team (group) they can send a request to build /help build on the other player's ship, this way you can help eachother out,
when an item is placed send an update to the planet giving all players on that planet the new added part and put it on that ship... singleplayer would do the same but noone would "hear" this update.
With this logic of "hearing" you can (more easily) create the singleplayer inside a server...

I really hope i made any sense in here 'cause I took over half an hour haha
anyway, thanks for reading! (appreciate it)

regards
-pre

Walt

prelol I don't have a single clue how barebones (how hard to program) the multiplayer is on this custom engine

Now that I have the core multiplayer code working, adding new features and game modes isn't really any harder than in singleplayer. But obviously that still takes work in of itself.

prelol If the engine really seperates the singleplayer from the multiplayer (wich i suspect)

99% of the code between singleplayer and multiplayer is shared.

prelol

Walt

Okay this is making ...
alot of sense ...
euhm...
I'm not going to start suspecting anything anymore because i'm horribly wrong... probably..

(relevant part starts here)

if we're allowed to know,
What are the biggest struggles in setting up a barebone co-op galaxy?

regards
-pre

Walt

prelol What are the biggest struggles in setting up a barebone co-op galaxy?

Multiplayer would, at the very least, require all players to be "in" the same sector (planet area) at the same time. Allowing players to go to different places would be enourmously complicated to implement.

Beyond that, synchronizing FTL jumps over the network could be complicated.

prelol

Walt

Walt Multiplayer would, at the very least, require all players to be "in" the same sector (planet area) at the same time.

an you explain the "in" part? why quoted?

also for FTL,
Might this be a good idea?

Since in the next updates multiplayer will get a server list, if every server is a sector (like now it already kind of is in matches), the FTL jumps are "jumps" to other servers, on connect to the server you'd spawn a ship with the temporary ship information generated on disconnect from the previous server... Then every "disconnect" would be an FTL jump out of the sector and every connect would be an FTL jump into it? That way the game never deals with syncing FTL jumps to other sectors since a server is just 1 sector.
Over the temporary ships, on disconnect, save the ship (and its damage values etc) and send them to the next server like if you start a new match (as in current version) with a broken ship.
Might this be an easy solution?

The more dedicated servers the bigger the galaxy would get. Ofcourse this would mean some servers are modded and wont show up in the galaxy map if you dont have a modded game etc...

This solution would work great since the FTL jump would be the thing keeping you from fleeing all the time since it takes time to leave a server. This way players won't get annoyed when a ship instantly flees when hit.

If you don't have an FTL drive well then you'll have to fight some AI to gain credits for FTL... leaving the game would still be an option with a 10 second countdown, also to restrict players from fleeing...

BUT

As a last restriction, when joining a server, you'd have to select a ship, like now in match making, but the ship requires a FTL drive, otherwise you wont be able to select the ship and join the server. This way you'd be sure players already build a ship capable of having an FTL drive and probably some decent ship too this way there wont be this massive battle over killing that one AI for some credits, players can already battle eachother on joining their first server.

A great feature would be the current galaxy map, having amature, proffesional veteran markings on the multiplayer galaxy map, being dynamic, every server would count the total ship mass inside the server and depending on that it would put a status saying empty, amature, etc etc.

Okay thats all I could come up with, if anyone wants to change or add onto this please do.

regards
-pre

WillieSea

For multiplayer, have it so the FTL jump only happens once everyone is at 100%. Like any fleet, you would make the admin of the server the 'admiral' who determines where everyone is going. And you could even force the FTL power-up on all ships commanded by the Admiral. So it would be a true co-op where everyone travels together in a battle formation.

Just my thoughts on co-op.

TheSillyFox

WillieSea
that would be cool!

Namek

But what happends if a person doesnt have ftl and the rest does? Thats one problem...

WillieSea

Namek Then that is an invalid ship. I guess it blows up when everyone else makes the FTL jump. And you better have good FLT percentage, the Admiral does not want you burning up all the FTL fuel.

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IT'S A COOP THEY'RE TRYING TO OVERTHROW @Walt KILL THEM ALL