Manta Missile Destroyer (no mods)

Subby84

Jakeblake the Manta missile destroyer cost is around 2'400'000. Never bragged out this ship is unbeatable or faster than any other one, what i "bragged" is that this ship can win against AI controlled Cerberus if used well, please refer to my last answer to Fulminis if you want a more detailed explanation.

Jakeblake

Subby84 2.4 million?! wow that's alot more than I thought lol I didnt think it was THAT massive
note that the Cerebus costs 2.2 million or so

culanns_hound

Jakeblake Well, his ship is pretty quick, but not quick enough since the one I tested it with was probably twice the weight

Subby84

Jakeblake Yeah it's kind of a money black hole, this because of the mass of power cores i putted in.
The following pic may interest you
image https://i.imgur.com/r4UQRya.png
This detail shows that each missile launcher have a proper power core, missile factory & crew separated from each other, this because i'm also testing on crew movements.
You surely noticed that crew'AI tend to travel through the whole ship if it's free access, instead of working on the nearest needing system.
Some tests showed me that limiting crew movement also push up the fire rate, and this would work on every armament i believe.
We shall test it deeper because improved rate of fire means better ship overall.
EDIT: this is still the first manta i posted here, that i need to modify a little to avoid the chain explosion of the actual configuration

Jakeblake

Subby84 It seems that you are really intent on using from facing missiles with no shields side facing is much better and easier to protect and allows for more weapons
A layer of armor between each compartment should do the trick to stop the chain reaction.
If you read my post (that I linked in another reply) I go really deep into missile setup efficiency which is obviously what your doing with this ship.
Here's what my missile setup looks like
image https://i.imgur.com/dJMaeMB.png

Subby84

Jakeblake Simply awesome, also you can use that as a module to stick on whichever kind of ship you want to do, without forgetting that even if one of those parts shall be separated from the rest of the ship, they still have full efficiency thx to CR Awesome

Teg

Here's my missile boat:

image https://i.imgur.com/tPMJlD6.png

image https://i.imgur.com/OFiUirk.png

Though I prefer Jakeblake's setup minus the command module ftl drive.
I actually named this ship Missiles seem bad. If the enemy ship has point defense missiles seem under powered.

Jakeblake

Teg Here's my version without FTL or CR (control room)
image https://i.imgur.com/5BUKREB.png

Teg

Jakeblake My new missile boat, inspired by your layout:

image https://i.imgur.com/kw1bNRs.png
I still think it's terrible though. 😛

Teg

Nice! i think you are missing a door on the top missile factory? To the conveyor.

Jakeblake

Teg Lol now i see it but it doesnt affect performance in any way so its fine
Pshhh thats cause you only have 16 missile launchers double that lol
Also your boat head is not that good you only have missiles as a weapon but you do have good shield coverage all round

culanns_hound

Subby84 If you want to test it out, there it is. I am sure it could be a lot more efficient but it gets the job done for me. Also I suck at naming
image https://i.imgur.com/fpv036j.png

Subby84

culanns_hound Thx, i will !

Subby84

Teg Missile broadside ship mmmmh interesting

Teg

Jakeblake
image https://i.imgur.com/eHNiqJV.png
Biggest ship I've ever made. I STILL think missiles are under powered lol.

culanns_hound

Teg Christ, that ship wrecked mine so fast. Now I need to design a ship that can beat it

Jakeblake

Teg missiles are under powered lol.

Really? I think they are only useless vs player ships because those are actually built to defend against missiles usually
I do agree that missiles are really expensive to operate tho with the high building costs plus crew but they're the only weapon that you can place facing sideways and still shoot at the enemy

Also can yall include the costs of your ships? Teg culanns_hound

Teg

culanns_hound Good luck 😛

culanns_hound

Teg I have done it. After kicking an idea around in my head for the front section and being..."inspired" by your design...I present to you The Wrath.

image https://i.imgur.com/sIIi1uN.png

After a few tests I am happy with the results of this new ship. A few changes I had make during the design process were adding armor between the missile sections. The first battle saw one whole side go up in smoke, which was pretty neat, but had to be addressed. The other change i did was with the thruster sections. At first they were 6 thrusters by 6 thrusters and they worked, but could be a lot more efficient. Now they work really well. I also am not sure if I am happy with the damage output on the forward facing guns but I don't want to get rid of the point defense sections because they work really well and probably saved my butt a lot more than I realize.

Teg

culanns_hound Cool, I look forward to trying to beat it! 😃

culanns_hound

Jakeblake My ship costs 4,670,679 credits

Teg

Jakeblake $4,494,725

culanns_hound I made a new ship for you to beat, I gave it its own thread:
https://forum.cosmoteer.net/d/1230-tegs-big-modular-boxes-unbeatable-challenge