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I don't know what the meta is or how to do it. I need your best competitive ships for the meta currently. I need a tournament winner. Because it's embarrassing every time i lose to my friend (he's new to the game) just because he has the OP af built-in Marathon made by Cosmopyr himself. I need to see how the is directly in front of me and build a ship that can rival even Cosmopyrs creation.

KrankysFirebrand48
Enter the FC and Excelsior and build one yourself, I made my server for a reason, Kranky. Winning with something that isn't yours would be an insult to your capacity to develop great skills, don't insult yourself.

KrankysFirebrand48 Build-in Cegna Rei and Excelsis can both win against Marathon.

I am new to the game and have been playing around only in sandbox.
A simplified ship with 2x railguns, maybe 4 railgun accelerators, 2 shields (probably not needed) and perhaps some point defense, skeleton crew and a lot of engines on reverse cost slightly over 500k and always took down the Marathon, it is so light, hence fast and easily steps out of range. That ship is engines strapped on railgun, not even one small laser. Excelsis under ai control demanded a lot heavier ship with a lot more shields, 700k, jump in, take one shot, receive one shot at 4+ density shields and flee, doable and that ship eats all AI ships I have found for breakfast, but beating Excelsis was not fun.

    Juhani So, the first one is more of a kiter than an ultralight then? Yeah, most kiters require dedicated counters and the AI is way to simple to deal with them, but that doesn't count for most players.


    KrankysFirebrand48 You know the Building Academy is still a thing? It was originally intended to help with GiF, but since we have Oneye, kieffer and Gustav, you'll find enough help for pvp too. Oh, and Equalizer who occasionally pops in for no apparent reason.

      CursedPh4nt0m
      Both are called kite. Railgun itself is very heavy so it can't be called an ultralight.
      Most ships speed is matched with only half the engines, but some are faster, esp with boost.

        Juhani You tried using them in mp with a ring of death so far?
        Kiters are all nice when the enemy uses something slow, but maneuverability has become quite important and the marathon isn't especially easy to deal with.


        KrankysFirebrand48
        Regarding the enemy, I'd probably go for some flakwall mixed with cannons. Every projectile the Marathon shoots can get destroyed by flak more or less easily and LCs should dish out enough damage to get rid of the front before it overwhelms the defenses.
        You don't appear to be super-experienced regarding piloting, so there's no use suggesting one of these orbiters and I doubt you can already build a proper railspinner capable of getting through the shields.
        Again, feel free to ask for help in the Academy, I might even find the time to give you fast-ish replies if noone else is faster. Which rarely happens thanks to rl and time zones, to be honest.

        @KrankysFirebrand48 Now meta looks like this
        image https://forum.cosmoteer.net/assets/images/5961-0wG9zHsiLSkXPj0m.pngI
        It's Most important In my opinion meta is a orbitter meta now they're very strong and very fast it can beat most of types (need human) Also is powerfull meta called traps it's mostly wall but it can Unhitch and make 2 ships looks like this (need skill)
        image https://forum.cosmoteer.net/assets/images/5961-KMgiFHZolDbXJ083.png
        Rails and prims ion designs are most powerfull now In my oppion
        not bad are heavy cannons lasers Ebs nukes missles emps itp.

        damkiller thank you
        Very helpful

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          ROSEtints oh it’ll take some time. I won’t have access to my computer.

            ROSEtints One ship need a human this orbitter so fight with glory guns (it's still need a human but better than orbitter it's can't work without human) and remeber Unhitch it

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